Cognitive Biblical
Therapy Coursework

Counseling Through God’s
Transformative Word

Course 6 Chapter 10

Chapter 10

a. Negotiating Office Agreements

b. Office Proposal

c. Writing up the Office Proposal

d. Supervision of Provisional Providers and Students.

Essay Questions: Answering the section questions (red buttons) is a great way to prepare for the end of the Chapter Quiz. Chapter 10 questions require you to analyze the text and apply both present and previous course understanding, while using common sense. The section questions will provide Dr. Wilkinson’s feedback to your answers.

Quiz Requirement: At the end of the Chapter, a score of 75% is necessary on the Chapter Quiz in order to access the next chapter.

Account Access: You must be logged into the coursework page to take the quiz and advance.

Chapter 10

Church/Religious Organization Practice

Negotiating Office Agreements

In this part of our discussion, I will explain how I wrote the proposal, the contract/agreement and the renewal system for agreements for the church where I currently have my practice. You may use this format as a model that you can modify for your own use. We will start by your initial agreement with the church pastor and/or leadership of a church or religious facility.  You're probably going to have an initial meeting with the pastor, and you're trying to sell them basically on the possibility of their providing at no cost to you as far as overhead, at least an office space. You have looked at the facility, and we've talked about what you want, as far as where the entrances and the exits are, and the use of the office equipment, and the right to use the facility as you see fit, as you need to. And let's say that you've negotiated that, and that's pretty much established and worked out that, yeah, this has possibilities, but now you're actually coming up with what you would need. 

By analyzing the potential counseling and remodeling needs, remember, you're the professional so you're basically saying, here's what it takes to establish a professional counseling ministry that will meet the needs of what we want to do. That's yourself in the church that will establish Biblical counseling through a professional counseling ministry in this church. You will state the items that need to be present, in order to make this happen. So don’t be bashful, you need to confidently ask for necessary items to counsel individuals at their facility. They're going to spend money. If you hedge, stutter or sound ambivalent, they'll either give you less or you will appear to be unstable, wimpy, mushy, wishy washy. They want to have confidence in you, otherwise your relationship with the leadership will not work. 

So, look at the room, and remember the things we've talked about or review them, the size of the desk, the type of chairs, the colors in the office, the exits, the entrances, privacy, all that stuff. Here's where you have to say what you want, and you have to establish boundaries or minimums that you're going to get. Do not try to bear the brunt of the expense yourself. In most cases, you can't, and if you do, it's no good, because you'll set yourself up. In some situations, you'll set yourself up to lose the edge that you get by being here. In other words, they may start to say you need to pay some rent or some other things. And I'm not trying to be negative about churches or church boards or elders or anything, I'm just saying you have to establish the boundaries first. And if you don't, someone or some group of people will establish them for you, and you'll end up losing your monetary gain here. Then you’ll literally end up paying $400 a month in rent, and it's going to cut into your profit, and you're not going to be able to make wages and pay bills, and the whole thing is going to fall apart. 

So, you have to get this fixed up front, in writing, in a contract. And that's what this is. It's the initiation of a proposal for a binding contract upon yourself and the church. For some offices, a fresh coat of paint, window treatments, lighting, a better version of a bookshelf and flooring can go a long way in a fresh appearance.  Be clear, spell out to the leader(s) what a client, couple, family see as they walk into the office and will need to feel comfortable and safe. Talk about what is acceptable and nice about their facility with a voice of gratitude and value for their facility. You're trying to be as cost conscious as you can be and work with them, and so this was a place where you could compromise, which they will appreciate. 

If possible, increase the amount of soft lighting in the room to an acceptable level.  Avoid the use of fluorescent lights, more use of lamps or soft lights in several corners. For most people, the atmosphere of a home rather than an office can help clients to relax.  That leads to the next item of office furniture.  In some church facilities, the room that is offered can have used office furniture, sometimes outdated. If possible, observe what type of furniture is in the pastor’s office and draw comparisons if so desired.  Help the leader(s) to visualize what is needed and possible for the office space they are offering you.  Such as observing their entry way lobby and drawing more comparisons may help.  These observations may give you indication of their willingness to purchase your office furniture for you or give it to you for a whole year with no payments, and then to allow you to pay it off during the second year.  That happened at one of the church offices I used, their willingness to allow me to pay the church back and not have to pay any interest on the loan. It was exceptionally kind, and it was about $1,200 so they said, why don't you go over to this place which rents and sells office furniture and buy some stuff that's good quality, new or used?

The leaders told me, you can buy used equipment reasonably and at a good quality at this particular furniture store. So, I was able to purchase the things that are listed here. One light oak executive desk with a locking file drawer. The desk is two and a half feet by five. Make sure you get a way to lock the drawer, either if you keep your just office supplies in it, or some files. Even the potential is that your office, like mine, may be one that is or isn't used by others. My office becomes a Sunday school class on Wednesday or Sunday, and it's just fine with me.  I locked up my file drawer and my desk drawers. The teens used it. They get a kick out of it. They'll leave me notes or ding around. 

Sometimes it's a good thing too for the church, at least in some of them, because then they feel like they're getting double duty out of the room.  This option gives them a sense of being good stewards of the church and of maximizing their use and also says that you as the counselor, are workable, realistic, supportive, caring those sorts of things. Just as an aside there, if you're in a church, pay attention to the life of the church. If they have an event like at the church I'm at, they're going to have their 28th year anniversary with a dinner, you need to make it a point to go. You don't have to go to all of them, really, very few, but you need to say to them, I'm committed to you folks. I appreciate you folks. What goes on is of importance to me in the life of this church and its people. And just showing up, putting an appearance, saying that you're caring and committed, does a tremendous amount to endear these people to you, to them.  You need that, because you're going to see as you renew your contract, once they accept it, you continually come back to them, telling them what you think about the working relationship.  You’re asking them to extend their caring, their support, their financial support, because they pay the utility bill each month. It is to you and to your ministry. So, there is a reality here, a sense of salesmanship, caring about these people, letting them see that you're supportive. Being genuine in your appearances is necessary to enable you to have the kind of spiritual relationship that's crucial to the success of your ministry in the church, because you don't want discord or hassles or problems.  

Continuing with the discussion of furniture, office furniture includes three client chairs to accommodate normal counseling needs or a family setting. When appropriate, I have three padded chairs, padded arms, two of them sitting in front of my desk.  A third chair sits beside a setting table under a lamp. If I need it, I bring in a fourth chair when needed. There are many times I've had families, two, three or four people at a time, who need their own chair. Another thing is rotate that third chair in and out with the other two. That way nothing becomes worn to any degree. They all wear evenly. The third chair helps you minimize the wear on your chairs. 

Be sure to include your desk chair, such as an executive chair of the same fabric as the side chairs, to be utilized with the executive desk. In other words, it's nice if they match. Make sure you get one that's comfortable, high back, usually contour, form fitting, lumbar support, because you're going to be in it probably at least 30 or 40 hours a week. Once you get into a full-time practice, check them out, look at them, and read the literature. Get something that's good the first time, that's tasteful, that isn't bright or flashy, that matches the others, that has a sturdy fabric that will withstand your setting in it for hours at a time. 

This furniture and the nominal office remodeling should meet both the church's needs, your needs in relation to establishing an effective and professionally based Counseling Center that is effective, efficient, professional and Biblically based. You have to set this in their minds, that's what you are, so that once that is set, then it will maintain itself.  Then both your contact and the numbers of people coming into the counseling center will promote goodwill.  The church will see the effectiveness and care of your counseling practice, and the times that you talk with people at different hours of the night.  Also, your conversations with leadership about families being served and restored, or even at times, they ask to pray for you or for a potential case. Don't give them details of cases, but just say, I have this need. There's a family coming. Would you pray for them? People get a tremendous sense of ownership and of doing something and of pleasure out of being supportive that way, and they want to pray with you and for you.

Question 1

Fully answer the following question from the content you just read and submit your answer to find your score and Dr. Dan's answer to the question.

After having an initial meeting with a church pastor, what do you look for in the physical office and entrance space to set up a professional office?

Pasting is disabled for this answer box. Please type your answer in your own words.


Dr. Dan's Answer:

After an initial meeting, look for full rights of access to the building and its facilities, including the use of the nursery. The office should have two separate entrances that do not require clients to walk past others at the end of a session, and should be located in a portion of the building with a separate entrance and exit removed from the church office area. The office may need to be remodeled or repainted at the church's expense.

The church must also provide office furniture appropriate for a counseling center at the church's expense, including a 3' x 5' desk, cloth-covered chairs suitable for sessions of about an hour, and an executive chair for the counselor with padded arms and back.

Office Proposal

In the office proposal, I recommend you give them a date to have the office ready for you to move in, then to start counseling.  Such as, “I ask, if possible, all remodeling to the room be done by Saturday May 5th, and that the furniture be delivered on Monday May 7th. I will then begin to utilize the office for counseling purposes on Wednesday, May 9th.”  In this example, I gave the leaders a sequence of events. The leaders were motivated in my sincere desire to start. They responded quickly, which gave me an indication of their initial ownership to get the office set up. They were willing to get together, spend a Saturday and do all the remodeling. It wasn't extensive, but again, I didn't need to do it. I needed to see them choose to put themselves out, be there, meet the needs and get it set up. They did this on a Saturday. The furniture arrived on a Monday. I was there on a Tuesday and had my office set up and functional for me to show up to see clients.  We still had other things we had to deal with over time, like a phone line and things like that, but in general, it worked out just fine. 

Towards the end of my office proposal I stated, “My wife Gayle and I are looking forward to meeting all of you this Friday evening.” In other words, before they agreed to the proposal, we talked about it in full, and they asked me questions. At that time, like I did, you can talk about the details of your proposal and answer any questions concerning the counseling ministry that you may have. Last, be sure to write something like, “Thank you for reviewing this proposal and for your willingness to potentially open your local church to a counseling ministry of this kind.” 

When you go to this meeting with this proposal, be prepared to answer questions. Talk about specifics, give examples from counseling cases. If you have done this before, for some of you, I may be there or representative of The Biblical Christian Counseling Ministries. But whatever the case, that's where you really have to open your soul and be vulnerable. You also have to sense their spirit. So that's where you say to them, “What do you think about people coming in that aren't Christians, that may be drinking or doing drugs or living in adultery or have kids that are out of control? How will you feel about them using the bathroom and maybe getting it dirty or yelling and screaming and running down the halls? The kids or sometimes the people, the adults may be cursing or yelling or being upset, etc.”  That's where you have to say, “Here's what a counseling practice is like ….” 

You also need to be willing to give your testimony. Very good chance they're going to say, when did you become a Christian? What was your life like? Do you know the Lord Jesus? Are you filled with the Holy Spirit? How often do you read Scripture? Do you have devotions? What is your marriage like? All kinds of questions. Now you have to stand your ground. Be prepared for skeptics. In some cases, people will say, I don't think you should earn an income in counseling. I think you should be willing to counsel for free or for a contribution. 

So, you need to be prepared to defend the idea of a counseling ministry as a business and why, and you have to be a professional and those sorts of things. You have to know why you believe that, and that's what this counseling course is about.  Though, if you're not accepted, or that's considered not valid, then you need to not worry about this being the place you go. You need to let this option go. You need to go on with your quest for another church. You may look at 3 or 4, maybe 6 or 8, different churches. You may talk to many pastors, elders. You may go to boards with proposals. The idea, the truth is, you have to go to where God's going to be able to bless you. And if anybody balks at these kinds of things, which is their right and decision, then you have to let them go. You have to not push that or worry about that. 

Question 2

Fully answer the following question from the content you just read and submit your answer to find your score and Dr. Dan's answer to the question.

What questions will you ask the church leadership when you meet with them, other than about your office proposal? What questions should you ask them?

Pasting is disabled for this answer box. Please type your answer in your own words.


Dr. Dan's Answer:

Begin by asking spiritual and personal questions of the pastor: "When did you become a Christian? What was your life like? Do you know the Lord Jesus? Are you filled with the Holy Spirit? How often do you read Scripture? Do you have devotions? What is your marriage like?"

Then ask practical questions about the realities of a counseling practice: "What do you think about people coming in who aren't Christians -- people who may be drinking, doing drugs, living in adultery, or have kids out of control? How will you feel about them using the bathroom and maybe getting it dirty, or yelling and running down the halls? Sometimes clients or their children may be cursing, yelling, or very upset." That is where the counselor needs to say, "Here is what a counseling practice is like ..."

Writing up the Office Proposal

The next step is to write up a proposal for the office or counseling practice agreement. is a proposal for a counseling practice between myself and the church (see Proposed Counselor Church Agreement). I'm just giving you this form so you can see what other areas might be involved, or how you could even use this as what you would write up in the first agreement with a church.  

The introductory paragraph identifies who the agreement is between.  l will be solely responsible to obtain such items as federal and state tax ID numbers, under the registration of the counseling practice, a fictitious name (assumed business name) with the State of Illinois or Missouri, or wherever you're at that means that you're doing business as the Biblical Christian Counseling Center, which is under the authority or ownership of Dr. Daniel Wilkinson. Once each of you sign the agreement, the host church will want copies of these documents for their files. 

For the terms of the agreement, under number 1, describes what the church and counseling center will provide during this one-year agreement.  Number 2 describes the conducts, ethics and the adherence to the church and state’s professional licensure regulations.  Number 3 identifies the days for potential counseling hours, available for the counselor to conduct the counseling practice.  Promotion of the counseling practice is also the responsibility of Dr. Wilkinson.  The church can also help promote the counseling ministry to its congregants.  

You may remember the earlier discussion in this course, regarding the collection of fees from the client that initially go directly to the church.  The state statutes allow counselors and other practitioners to receive the total amount of the collected fees back from the church, as long as the counselor files income tax on the total fees as income.  This includes payment of self-employment tax.  The church serves as a ministry for people, which gives the counselor the ability to practice as a profession, under the church as an “umbrella” for the professional practice as a ministry of the church.  The agreement between the counselor and the church provides the counselor to practice in this manner.  Number 4 outlines how the fees are determined, paid to the church, returned back to the counselor and what is the counselor’s responsibility regarding filing taxes on this income.  

Number 5 identifies the counselor’s ministry activities in counseling and to the church, according to this agreement.  As discussed earlier in this course, giving back to the church is a wise investment and appreciation for the use of their facility and their support in the transformation of people’s lives.

Number 6, you will see a note about guidelines for administrative discussions between the counselor and church leadership.  Healthy communication and relational boundaries are important to establish in early discussions with church leadership.  In turn, Number 7 the description of how the counselor provides protection for the church, through malpractice insurance.  In this section, the agreement clearly points out who obtains and pays for the insurance, though the church may volunteer to provide this protection for the counselor and their own interests.  The coverage amounts in this agreement are typical, including the necessity of providing a “rider policy” (additional insured, the church) is clearly described to cover the church.  This policy is to be made available to all stakeholders who provide services and protection for the church leaders, congregation and church assets.

Number 8 describes the confidentiality of the document as an agreement between both parties, with exceptions noted in the agreement.  Number 9 outlines the time period (date) for the agreement, between the church and Dr. Wilkinson, with potential for review and renewal each year, if Mr. Wilkinson and the church representatives board and elders agree to the renewal. The contract shall contain a clause which gives each party the right to terminate the contract. That's your agreement to be there with a 30-day notice if either party you or the church so desires.  That means you as the counselor have agreed to provide counseling services during the hours of operation, maintain counseling ethics, follow the outlined collection of fees and so on, as the agreement states. Number 9 in this agreement protects both parties and holds both parties accountable.  So literally, the church can give 30-day notice of the termination of this agreement, which gives you a length of time to get to another office if you need to, and not lose your clients, because you don't have a place to meet them. 

Now, in this particular agreement, the only piece left is for the signatures.  A witness may be a good idea, too.  For a less formal situation, you can review the “BCCM Church Proposal Options” document in the Course 6 Required Written Documents folder. Though, if an unlicensed or provisionally licensed therapist who needs clinical supervision will be using the office, you can include other provisions in the agreement, such as Mr. XXXXX will be clinically supervised by Dr. Daniel Wilkinson. 

Question 3

In your own words, answer the following question and submit to record your response. This question is for your personal reflection -- no score is given.

In your opinion, how formal should the agreement and proposal be written? What is your opinion about the proposal example in the text regarding the way it is written -- too much information or more needed? Do you need a lawyer to look over it?

Pasting is disabled for this answer box. Please type your answer in your own words.


Your response has been recorded.

Supervision of Provisional Providers & Students

There are several additions to consider for specific types of counselors setting up an agreement with a church or parachurch organization. State licensure as professional counselors will require specific stipulations, that can include supervision for provisionally licensed counselors and/or lay counselors. For those providers who need an agreement for counseling supervision, the process is different than just setting up an agreement with a church as a licensed professional. The supervisor of the unlicensed provider will need to be part of the negotiations with the host church. When a new person begins counseling, they have no credibility and need to be accountable to a supervisor who can guide and support their counseling skills. The supervisor has credibility that the board and church elders can rely on if there is a problem. That licensed counselor’s experience will guide those in difficult situations, as well as with typical AQAL and Analysis Profile interpretations, diagnosing for insurance reasons, treatment planning, etc.. This is critical, because many times the church leaders are hesitant to allow an inexperienced person to work there. There is more confidence that the counselor will be successful, because he/she has a supervisor to help.

The supervisor will need to provide the student a contract, that lists the relationship expectations and any state requirements, especially if the student is a provisional counselor in process of getting their license. See this agreement: Contract for Supervisory Training Services. The supervisor and student will need to provide this agreement to the church leadership and the malpractice insurance company. Other miscellaneous expectations will be the student to provide the supervisor: Cost & Disclosure Statement; Examples of Insurance (third party) Invoices;‍ ‍annual Liability Insurance Policy; Post Counseling Questionnaires; and various client intake, release, etc. forms. It is recommended for the supervisor to take notes of the supervision sessions (see Supervision Record form).

The next consideration in the agreement, whether for yourself in providing a professional counselor or for a student/non licensed therapist or even a lay counselor. Attached is a counseling contract between a student counselor with supervisor and church: Biblical Counseling Services Student form, you can also include an addendum to the proposed agreement to apply to specific circumstances. In many cases, an addendum may be necessary to describe what the church will provide for the counseling center office both remodeling and office/administrative needs.  Notable items such as office space, as mutually agreed upon and waiting room area and any requested renovations be made at no cost to him/her. Another item in the addendum should be office furniture which the counselor requests/proposes the church initially buy the furniture for an agreed upon amount that would be repaid to the church within a specific amount of time. The list of the desired furniture is listed with specific descriptions.  As discussed earlier, most people, when they start a practice, do not have a lot of cash assets, so that they can go out and put down somewhere between $2,000 and $4,000.  The cost of printing brochures will be a required expense for the new counselor. In the past, some churches have provided quality office furniture for both the counseling office and the waiting area, and are open to accepting their provision for items you cannot afford.  

Be sure to include in the addendum, the counselor pays no rent for his office space and no cost for utilities for the office space. And the counselor will be given the right to utilize the church office equipment, copier, bulk mailing, material, and PC/laptop belonging to the church at no cost to himself. Something that is often forgotten about is the provision of appropriate signage on and in the building, which would identify the location of the practice and the counseling office. Again, the counselor can request/propose these signs be provided at no cost to himself. 

Once you've established this as your basic needs in the proposed agreement and addendum, then you allow the elders, the church board members, to ask you questions about this proposal to clarify anything they need to know. Whatever the setting you find yourself in the discussion of the proposal, be open to their responses and questions. Relax, ask the Holy Spirit to guide your thoughts and words in response to anything that is brought up.  As I mentioned earlier, in my past experience, one church wanted to give nothing other than space and utilities with me providing free counseling to their people. I would have to find $4,000 to start up my practice. I just said, “I can't do that,” and I had to move on. There wasn't any anger or emotion; it just wasn't going to work.

Copyright 1987, 1990, 1993 by Daniel D. Wilkinson. All rights reserved. For more information concerning this material, write to:
The Biblical Christian Counseling Ministries, Inc., 2730 Radcliffe Dr., Florissant, MO 63031.
Any reproduction of this material without the express written consent of the author is prohibited. Printed in the U.S.A..

Question 4

Fully answer the following question from the content you just read and submit your answer to find your score and Dr. Dan's answer to the question.

Review the Contract for Supervisory Training Services. Describe at least three expectations between the supervisor and the student and briefly explain why these are important to the relationship.

Pasting is disabled for this answer box. Please type your answer in your own words.


Dr. Dan's Answer:

The supervisor is present to help equip and oversee the student according to state licensure requirements, including consultation on client evaluation, treatment, counseling practices, and the licensure process. The student has a financial obligation to the supervisor. The student must also be accountable in following record keeping, confidentiality, review of counseling forms, and ethical and liability responsibilities.

You are ready to take Course 6, Chapter 10 Quiz.

Quiz Requirement: A score of 75% is necessary to continue to the next chapter. Remember, it may be necessary to retake the quiz to score 75%, as a part of your learning experience. If so, no worries, give yourself grace and time to absorb the detailed text.

Account Access: You must be signed into the coursework page (which is separate from the main CBT website) to take the quiz and advance.

Checking your login status…

One moment please.